Hugh: Up a gum tree without a paddle, that's where it is. The question is this. Either you believe in market forces or you don't.
Stephen: Well actually, I'm afraid to say I don't.
Hugh: You don't?
Stephen: No. I used to of course, when I was a child, but like everyone else, I discovered as I grew older that it was all made up.
Hugh: Made up?
Stephen: Yes. I can still remember the exact moment. It was Christmas Eve. I can't have been more than about thirty years old. I couldn't sleep, so I crept downstairs and heard my parents laughing about market forces, and saying that they'd have to break it to me sooner or later. Bit of a blow, I can tell you. And then two years after that, I discovered there was no such thing as Father Christmas either.